Honors Comp 2 (11:30a.m.-12:30p.m.): Socratic Circle



For today's first socratic circle we will be breaking into two groups: the first will be our "fishbowl," leading a group discussion about an article from The Atlantic; the second will be our audience, observing how discussion is going and how they feel about points brought up in the conversation.

After twenty minutes, we will switch roles, and group 2 will have their own discussion on an important article from The Atlantic, while group 1 live comments (see instructions below).

Instructions: 
Audience members: in the comments section of this post, make thoughtful observations about the conversation taking place in the "fishbowl."  Good observations will do the following:
  1. Identify when you agree/disagree with observations and specifically state why (ASRApt Specific Reference).  
  2. Observe what specific group members did that helped to 
    1. "propel" conversation forward, 
    2. respond to their group members, 
    3. and provide thoughtful observations.

Fishbowl members: students who do well in the "fishbowl" will do the following:

  1. Come to discussion prepared, having read and researched materials beforehand.
  2. Work with peers to promote a civil, democratic discussion, set clear goals, and establish individual roles. 
  3. Propel conversations forward by posing and asking questions that probe reasoning and ask for evidence. 
  4. Respond thoughtful to diverse perspectives, synthesize (combine) comments, claims, and evidence, resolve contradictions, and investigate meaning. 

Comments

  1. I feel the town people would win

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  2. Jordan immediately creates a topic to discuss, which propels the conversation forward. James then agrees with him and asks a question to move the conversation along.

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  3. Emerson: It's interesting that they note the differences between the cities and the states; especially James' mention that they are like completely different countries. Morgan noted that it's a vicious cycle.

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  4. I like Jordan's discussion of how the laws (?) tend to affect children and oppressed groups. (I'm not sure if I'm interpreting this correctly...)

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  5. It's important how the group is debating and arguing their different opinions instead of only collaborating on the same idea.

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  6. I feel that this article confirms my disagreement with the two parties. It shows that sometimes they do more harm than good.

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  7. Emerson: It's interesting that they discuss more about cities that are blue, versus states that are red. Jordan is bringing up a lot of questions about the fighting between cities and states and brings up many conversation topics. James states the need for collaboration and respect. Christian notes that the war could be political... in my opinion, it would probably be social.

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  8. I agree with Jame's discussion about the fact that the two parties won't to go to war because it will negatively impact both of them more than they can afford.

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  10. I like how Jordan moved the conversation on after they had been discussing the same thing for a long long time. Earlier on, I didn't like how the same 1 or 2 people would just contradict people repeatedly, but that quickly came to an end

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  11. Jordan brings up the bias that the group has based off of where they live and their political views.

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  13. I like that Andy is explaining what he though the article was about and then explaining what it is actually about

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  14. Andy summarizes the article in order to create a foundation for the discussion.

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  15. Emerson takes a bit of Andy's description and and adds to it while posing a question.

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  16. emerson brings up how that although living to 100 has numerous benefits, financially it might not be good.

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  17. Andy does a good job throughly summarizes the article

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  18. I heard how Andy referenced how things would be boring after living long enough, and I know that this is actually present throughout a lot of modern stuff (i.e. Elves who live to 700+, Flowey from Undertale, etc.)

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  19. I disagree that people working longer have any affect the younger workforce is having a harder time finding jobs

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  21. Grace expands on the previously mentioned politics discussion, and adds important points from the article.

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  22. Grace mentions that the older generation will have a different political viewpoint and create a bigger divide. This should have created a new discussion.

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  23. i think that by people living longer it my bring more diversity to the population by having more generations alive.

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  24. Emerson brings up a good point about healthspan, propelling the conversation forward.

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  25. Emerson brings up a good point about people having to do stuff, and really helps bring the conversation forward.

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  26. emerson brings up the use of logos and pathos in the articles: old people need to stay active and happy as they grow older

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  27. Emmerson talks about the mix between logos and pathos and the paths made her feel sad

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  28. Emerson and Ryan create an activity discussion.

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  29. Grace points out flaws in longevity. Ryan adds to it using things that Emerson said while stating his opinion. She then goes on to analyze the appeals within the story and comments on the responsibility of living longer. Ryan agrees that it would be better to enjoy a fuller life that is shorter than a long one that you do nothing with.

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  30. I like that they are keeping the conversation lighter and acknowledging counter-arguments instead of aggressively disagreeing

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  31. Sadie brings up a good anecdote and uses it to move it forward

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  32. sadie words this in a very good way: there is a difference between living your life and living a healthy live. Both physically and mentally.

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  33. Brooke brings back the financial debate by mentioning how extending healthspan decreases expenses, moving the conversation in a new direction.

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  34. A conversation about the "healthspan" begins. People comment on how old people need something to do while living longer. Andy comments on the changes in society that would occur if the average lifespan were to increase.

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  35. I appreciate how the first year whose name I don't know brings in ethics. Granted, it also dies out kinda quick, but I feel like that's an interesting road to go down in this conversation.

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  36. I like how Sadie brings up a personal anecdote to contribute to the discussion.

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  37. Discussion: The other people in society.

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  38. emerson points out how people think of humans as ideas instead of the humans they. This is why we need to take care of them to experience what they have to bring to this world.

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  39. Andy brings the conversation in a new direction by bringing up school

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  40. I find it interesting that Andy brings up extended education as a possibility for how to use longer life.

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  41. Emerson comments on the humanity of the elderly and says that if people lived longer then more people would get to know them.

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  42. brooke brings up a good point about overpopulation

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