Frankenstein, Chapters 12-15: Socratic Circle
Instructions:
Audience members: in the comments section of this post, make thoughtful observations about the conversation taking place in the "fishbowl." Good observations will do the following:
- Identify when you agree/disagree with observations and specifically state why (ASR: Apt Specific Reference).
- Observe what specific group members did that helped to
- "propel" conversation forward,
- respond to their group members,
- and provide thoughtful observations.
Fishbowl members: students who do well in the "fishbowl" will do the following:
- Come to discussion prepared, having read and researched materials beforehand.
- Work with peers to promote a civil, democratic discussion, set clear goals, and establish individual roles.
- Propel conversations forward by posing and asking questions that probe reasoning and ask for evidence.
- Respond thoughtful to diverse perspectives, synthesize (combine) comments, claims, and evidence, resolve contradictions, and investigate meaning.
I like that the conversation starts with clarification
ReplyDeleteI like how the group is telling each other their interpretations of the story
ReplyDeleteThere is a group discussion about a specific event and I like how each fishbowl member gives their own opinion on the event and then discussion proceeds to follow the opinions
ReplyDeleteJordan identifies nice motifs
ReplyDeleteJordan’s comparison of the monster’s depiction of himself versus his depiction of others is a very good point.
ReplyDeleteJordan brings up the repetition of wretch, which is a good point.
ReplyDeleteGood building off of each other
ReplyDeleteEveryone has spoken, so the group is doing a good job at getting everyone involved.
ReplyDeleteMorgan brings up a good point of how Safie is similar to Elizabeth.
ReplyDeleteBrooke discusses the comparison of Frankenstein and Safia
ReplyDeleteGood entries to level 3 thinking
ReplyDeleteI like how people comparing Frankenstein’ monster with other characters in the book. What the difference between them is and how the monster thinks about himself.
ReplyDeleteJordan does a really good job with the quoting. Brooke makes a really good point as to how the monster is becoming Frankenstein. I like how they connect their points to romanticism.
ReplyDeleteI like how they continuously talked about foils.
ReplyDeleteThey got started off really quickly with a strong point
ReplyDeleteI like how the conversation starts with a connection to the events surrounding Frankenstein's creation.
ReplyDeleteI find it very interesting how James connects Safie's mother to Shelley's mother. I would have found it better, though, if they connected more things together with Shelley's lie such as Shelley' father/sister/etc. and then used it to compare and contrast.
ReplyDeleteThe conversation immediately starts.
ReplyDeleteA lot of strong opinions we're given by several members right off the bat
ReplyDeleteTheir convos are much more relaxed and less depressing than ours
ReplyDeleteEmerson, James, and Grace bring up some good points and talk about Safie and her backstory.
ReplyDeleteSome people aren't letting others get their ideas out, and there is often more than one person talking at once
ReplyDeleteThe talk about how fast Frankenstein is learning and how it is extremely accelerated.
ReplyDeleteJames makes a strong point about how maybe the monster is superhuman mentally as well as physically
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting how they bring in the monster's speech patterns, but I am slightly dissatisfied that they never brought in the fact that the entire story is written by the monster, thus would be a good benchmark to show how far he's improved.
ReplyDeleteThe conversation drifts to a point in which the discussion questions the method how Frankenstein's monster assimilates the written French language. This is suboptimal.
ReplyDeleteThey brought in a logical point about how the monster could potentially view letters.
ReplyDeleteConvo starts fast with an interesting thought from Emerson. James draws a similarity from Safie's mom and Shelley's mom. They begin talking about how articulate the monster is, and just how intelligent he is. It evolves into a discussion of the m's abilities.
ReplyDeleteAlmost everyone is consistently adding to the conversation.
ReplyDeleteBerry made a strong point about how the only part of the monster that is socially unacceptable is his appearance, as revealed by the blind man
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I find it interesting how James brings in the romantic aspect of the family, but I would have elaborated more upon how it contrasted with that of the monsters' and that may have been a tall goal for the monster to try and reach.
ReplyDeleteEverybody seems to have talked so far in the seminar, which is pretty swell
ReplyDeleteDiscussion of time lacks quotations.
ReplyDeleteI feel like people were talking over each other a lot which makes for a frantic discussion
ReplyDeleteI dislike how the argument devolves into an argument about the timeline between Frankenstein and his monsters' time, since it really doesn't contribute much the the discussion.
ReplyDeleteGrace brings up some good points and there are very few breaks in the conversation.
ReplyDeleteThe circle has become a kite with irrelevant points. Andy, Madi, and Toben should talk more.
ReplyDeleteThey begin debating how much time has passed since F made the M. They also discuss how M wasn't intelligent before when he killed the people. They continue discussing when things took place in an attempt to create a timeline to clarify the story's events. Andy tries to get Toby involved. It doesn't work.
ReplyDeleteThe tangent has finally entered another function. Then the circle ends.
ReplyDeleteA group member that hadn't talked much yet was about to say something but was interrupted, and then there were like 3 people talking at once (the interrupter and a couple other people) which I didn't like.
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