V for Vendetta: Socratic Seminar on "Book 1" and "Book 2"
Instructions:
Fishbowl members: students who do well in the "fishbowl" will do the following:
Audience members: in the comments section of this post, make thoughtful observations about the conversation taking place in the "fishbowl." Good observations will do the following:
- Identify when you agree/disagree with observations and specifically state why (ASR: Apt Specific Reference).
- Observe what specific group members did that helped to
- "propel" conversation forward,
- respond to their group members,
- and provide thoughtful observations.
Fishbowl members: students who do well in the "fishbowl" will do the following:
- Come to discussion prepared, having read and researched materials beforehand.
- Work with peers to promote a civil, democratic discussion, set clear goals, and establish individual roles.
- Propel conversations forward by posing and asking questions that probe reasoning and ask for evidence.
- Respond thoughtful to diverse perspectives, synthesize (combine) comments, claims, and evidence, resolve contradictions, and investigate meaning.
Katherine starts right off by asking a question.
ReplyDeleteAshlynne starts off the circle with a comment about the very first chapter of the story.
ReplyDeleteThe inner circle starts right at the start of the book, which I think is the best way to start off the conversation.
ReplyDeleteKatherine talks about differences in the book and movie
ReplyDeleteAshlynne shares her opinion on why Evey helps V with his revenge. Hannah adds with more detail.
ReplyDeleteHannah gives good insight on Evey which clarifies parts of the book
ReplyDeleteThomasina expands upon Hannah's discussion
ReplyDeleteIn the beginning, they ask about making connections to the movie. Some of the members have not seen the movie so they prevent from discussing it.
ReplyDeleteThe circle talks about how Evey craves a father figure
ReplyDeleteKatherine keeps bringing up the movie
ReplyDeleteThomasina examines the psychology of Evey and how the trauma she's been exposed to accounts for her actions.
ReplyDeleteHannah brings the circle back into focus for everyone
ReplyDeleteHannah removes the conversation from the movie
ReplyDeleteHannah brings the topic back to the book after a few distractions.
ReplyDeleteKatherine connects back to Brave New World
ReplyDeleteKatherine connects V to Brave New World because of the enslavement through happiness
ReplyDeleteAshlynne shares why she thinks V acts the way he does.
ReplyDeleteThe torture is really interesting. It's being talked about. I like some of the pints they're bringing up. Is it brainwashing?
ReplyDeleteKatherine brings it back to the movie
ReplyDeleteKatherine asks a question to build on the conversation
ReplyDeleteKatherine acts what the group thinks about Rosemary.
ReplyDeleteIs Rose supposed to be a foil for Eve?
ReplyDeleteThe group discusses the torture scenes, making points on the ideas and concepts behind it. Trying to identify reasons as to why V did it and how it will strengthen Eve.
ReplyDeleteThomasina disagrees with the group to share her opinion, which Ash supports
ReplyDeleteHannah asks Taylor what she took from the story. Taylor talks about the art style and what she thinks of it.
ReplyDeleteHannah asks an open ended question that can improve the conversation
ReplyDeleteTaylor talks about the art style of the book
ReplyDeleteThe conversation moves toward the art style of the book
ReplyDeleteThey move on and discuss the artwork of the book, discussing how it fortifies and adds to the piece.
ReplyDeleteI'm enjoying the conversation about art style, because it is a comic book and art is a huge part.
ReplyDeleteHannah talks about how the past scenes have brighter colors, which may mean happiness
ReplyDeleteThe group discusses how the medium of the book affects tone
ReplyDeleteAsh moves the discussion to prediction
ReplyDeleteAshlynne asks for the groups predictions for the next book.
ReplyDeleteAshlynne talks about the state of the social hierarchy in London.
ReplyDeleteHannah defends her point
ReplyDeleteMany people agree that it is difficult to tell who is talking and who is who in the story.
ReplyDeleteGroup speaks of how the writing/art style affected their reading
ReplyDeleteRudy believes that the pictures are important.
ReplyDeleteEmilie begins the conversation with discussing the format
ReplyDeleteRudy counters Mari's comment by explaining his method of reading the book
ReplyDeleteThe group discusses how the graphic novel format affected their comprehension.
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting how they are discussing how useful the words were vs the pictures. I also like Annie's point about how similar the officials all looked
ReplyDeleteMari moves the discussion to characters
ReplyDeleteMari changes conversation to comparison of how characters reacted to death
ReplyDeleteMari shifts the conversation to V's victims from Larkhill, and compares them to the one who was V's last victim who felt so guilty she did not feel bad about dying.
ReplyDeleteMari brings the conversation more to characters and the plot, specifically Delia's role
ReplyDeleteMari moves to the actual content of the novel, specifically the characters and their emotions.
ReplyDeleteBen and Rudy speak of how one character's life was affected through her experience at the camp
ReplyDeleteMari mentions how V recites verses while killing his victims
ReplyDeleteSam thinks that maybe since the doctor did not get a more powerful job, she was able to reflect on her actions.
ReplyDeleteThe group talks about how V killed her in a less violent way than the others.
I like how they are discussing the bond between V and Delia, the scientist lady. Leif's comment on the ugly vs. beautiful is very interesting
ReplyDeleteLif mentions how one character's view changed towards V
ReplyDeleteAnnie shifts the conversation more towards parallels
ReplyDeleteThe group discusses the doctor and V's killings, and the way he kills them in relation to their relationships with V
ReplyDeleteThe doctor and V had a closer relationship because the doctor studied him so much.
ReplyDeleteLif comments on how at first she called V's face ugly, but when she was about to die, she said his face was beautiful. The group discusses what this means.
Annie notices parallels between the victims' deaths and what they had previously done to V
ReplyDeleteEveryone is drawing the parallels between the ways V's victims died and how they tortured V.
ReplyDeleteThe group believes that Valerie is very important to V.
ReplyDeleteThe topic switches to V's use of roses and the character Valerie, and why V clings to the story of Valerie and the roses
ReplyDeleteI like Rudy and Mari's discussion of how Valerie's note affected V's time in the facility. Especially Sam's idea about how it was more something to believe in
ReplyDeleteSam thinks that V brainwashed Evey because he gave her an enemy, a cause, and he took everything else away.
ReplyDeleteSam speaks of how even though V tortured her, Evey still views him as the good guy
ReplyDeleteRudy switches the topic to V's motive in his torture of Evey
ReplyDeleteRudy talks about V recreating his experiences with Evey's torture and what he was trying to do with that
ReplyDeleteThe group discusses V and why he does what he does and why.
ReplyDeleteI like how Rudy approaches the topic of ridding Evey of her fears
ReplyDeleteEmilie mentions how the singular poster makes her think it was the prison
ReplyDeleteEmilie thinks it's interesting that Evey saw only one propaganda poster and that made her believe she really was in prison.
ReplyDeleteAnnie brings up a point of the rabbit magic trick paralleling Evey's imprisionment
ReplyDeleteAnnie thinks that Evey's torture is a parallel to the magic trick that V did at the beginning of the book with the rabbit.
ReplyDeleteAnnie introduces the idea of the parallel between Evey and the rabbit in the magic trick
ReplyDeleteHannah asks the group what they would like to speak about
ReplyDeleteRudy mentions the evolution of Eve's charcter
ReplyDeleteKatherine talks about how she likes that Evey does not kill as the new V.
ReplyDeleteThe circle starts of by discussing Evey as the new V, and describing the differences between Evey and V.
ReplyDeleteKatherine makes a good point of creator vs destroyer. Why did she bring in the new boy then?
ReplyDelete'She' being Eve
DeleteRudy mentions the parallels with the book/ how the ending connects back to the beginning
ReplyDeleteRudy talks about how almost everything connects back to something in a previous section.
ReplyDeleteLif talks about how the end ties in all the concepts and messages from the story.
ReplyDeleteLif mentions how the reader only fully understands the plot at the end of the novel
ReplyDeleteKatherine mentions how the new Evey V is the "creator," who will build the new world, while the old V was the "destroyer," who killed off the toxic reign and reduced the world to rubble.
ReplyDeleteAnnie introduces the topic of Evey's and V's relationship
ReplyDeleteHannah talks about how she finds it interesting that V trust Evey to become the new V. Annie wonders whether V could have entrust anyone with the job.
ReplyDeleteHannah and Anna talk about V possibly searching for people. Rudy makes a good point about Fate.
ReplyDelete*Annie
DeleteRudy counters the groups argument by mentioning V's access to Fate
ReplyDeleteRudy speaks of the personification of Fate
ReplyDeleteRudy talks about the personification of Fate. Will anyone also bring up the personification of Justice?
ReplyDeleteRudy talks about how fate is just a system of cameras and videos, but it is seen as an all-knowing being.
ReplyDeleteLif switches topic to technology
ReplyDeleteLif changes the subject to Technology
ReplyDeleteLif talks about the absence of technology among the general public in V for Vendetta
ReplyDeleteI haven't heard Thomasina, Ethan, or Taylor talk much
ReplyDeleteKatherine uses examples from BNW in order to depict her point
ReplyDeleteKatherine compares tech in V to tech in BNW. Rudy mentions the time frame.
ReplyDeleteNot connected, when was this written?
Rudy makes the point that technology when the graphic novel was made was less advanced than present day.
ReplyDeleteThomasina makes a good point about tech and the government.
ReplyDeleteIn V, the society is more focused on order while in Brave New World the society is focused on happiness.
ReplyDeleteThomasina compares the system of BNW to the system within V for Vendetta
ReplyDeleteRudy: Is it better to have stability or freedom?
ReplyDeleteAt this point they're talking about V through a bit of a BNW lens.
ReplyDeleteAsh starts them off with a specific topic
ReplyDeleteAshlynne begins the conversation by bringing up V's control of Fate
ReplyDeleteAsh starts off with a large and broad topic
ReplyDeleteThey're jumping around pretty quickly
ReplyDeleteMari brings the topic away from that in favor of her own opinions
ReplyDeleteBen clarifies Mari's point
ReplyDeleteMari likes how the audience still doesn't know who V is.
ReplyDeleteSam respectfully disagrees and explains her own point
ReplyDeleteSamantha brings in her own opinion on the end
ReplyDeleteSam and Mari give their opinions on the ending. Ben asks the group a question
ReplyDeleteThe group seems to struggle with finding a specific topic to stick to.
ReplyDeleteBen asks another clarifying question.
ReplyDeleteThe topic switches to Helen
ReplyDeleteSam thinks that the emphasis in the story is on the idea of anarchy rather than on the characters.
ReplyDeleteThey discuss the role of the mean wife lady as she tried to become the controller through another man
ReplyDeleteThe group discuss who Helen is and what her motives are.
ReplyDeleteEveryone has now spoken at least a little
ReplyDeleteEmilie brings up the symbolism of V's dominoes
ReplyDeleteEmilie connects images in the text to events in the text.
ReplyDeleteThe group discusses Helen and her role in the story.
ReplyDeleteMari butts into the conversation when ever she can
ReplyDeleteEmilie thinks it is interesting how V is setting up the dominos while the government is figuring out V has access to Fate.
ReplyDeleteThe group discusses the ending and their personal opinions of it. They discuss what it can symbolize and mean.
ReplyDeleteBen brings up the "for want of a nail" situation at the end of the book
ReplyDeleteThey all discuss the metaphor of the dominoes and its connection to how all V did was spur the revolution
ReplyDeleteMari brings up V's motivation for killing people in the beginning
ReplyDeleteBen notes that when Eve asks V whether he is done and he says almost yes, he might have meant done setting up the dominos, or the plan, or his life.
ReplyDeleteThey discuss V's motives for killing the people in the beginning
ReplyDeleteNoah brings up the point that he could have killed them to protect his identity
ReplyDeleteThey discuss the overall conclusion and how the characters developed and their true character was shown.
ReplyDeleteThe group is discussing why V killed the people who tortured him, if his grand scheme was to change the government.
ReplyDeleteSam switches away from a heated topic
ReplyDeleteSam changes the topic to how they feel about V's identity
ReplyDeleteSam asks what the group thinks about the idea of V's anonimity.
ReplyDeleteSam asks the group on their opinions on the fact that V was an anonymous figure.
ReplyDeleteThe discuss the concept of V. How he was an idea and not a person.
ReplyDeleteThey discuss how revealing V's face would have changed the character
ReplyDeleteI feel like they are changing topics a little too fast
ReplyDeleteMari asks another question
ReplyDeleteMari starts new a discussion
ReplyDeleteThe group discusses when they realized that Eve would take over for V.
ReplyDeleteThey discuss why V let Finch kill him. Sam thinks it is because he has fate
ReplyDeleteSam emphasizes the importance of fate
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